Episode 218

Physics, Rainbows and 3D Printing, with Dr Stephan Eickelmann

Stephan Eickelmann

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Dr Stephan Eickelmann is the founder, president and head instructor of Schildwache Potsdam and a key organiser behind events such as Swords of the Renaissance (where you'll find Guy every year) and the International Torneo di Spada League. Alongside Stephan’s work in historical martial arts, he is a physicist with a PhD in experimental soft matter and interface physics, and a university researcher and teacher.

Stefan discovered historical martial arts during his PhD, and was drawn to its flat hierarchies, research driven mindset and emphasis on shared inquiry. His approach to teaching focuses on enabling independent thinking rather than transmitting authority. He is also involved in equipment design, open source safety development and building inclusive, responsibility driven club and event cultures.

We chat about how historical fencing is where teaching, making, research, safety and community all come together.

Our conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing traditional martial arts practices with modern safety and inclusivity. We discuss the impact of how small gestures, like painting nails and club t-shirts, create a more relaxed and inclusive environment in class.

Episode Outline

Introduction to Stephan Eickelmann and His Background

  • Guy Windsor introduces Stephan Eickelmann, highlighting his roles as founder, president, and head instructor of Schildwache Potsdam.
  • Stephan is also a physicist with a PhD in experimental soft matter and a university researcher and teacher.
  • Stephan encountered historical martial arts during his PhD, drawn to its flat hierarchies, research-driven mindset, and emphasis on shared inquiry.
  • Guy praises Stefan’s approach to teaching, focusing on enabling independent thinking rather than transmitting authority.

Stefan’s Location and Early Involvement in Historical Martial Arts

  • Stephan is located in Mainland Europe, specifically in Germany, in Potsdam, near Berlin.
  • Stephan shares that he is sitting in his daughter’s room, the quietest space in the house.
  • Stephan got into historical martial arts through a university sports program offering a class on historical fencing.
  • He joined the course led by Martin Hoeppner, who is also a founder of Schildwache Potsdam.

Initial Experiences with Historical Martial Arts

  • Stephan started with medieval sword and buckler based on 1.33.
  • The initial courses were rudimentary, using nylon simulators without masks.
  • Stephan describes the slow, controlled fencing approach based on the work of Roland Warzecha.
  • Guy shares his own approach to starting beginners with steel longswords and fencing masks to ensure safety.

Scientific Training and Historical Martial Arts

  • Stephan discusses how his scientific training influenced his approach to historical martial arts.
  • He mentions the mixture of knowledge transmission and the current state of teaching from Martin Hoeppner.
  • Stephan highlights the room for interpretation in historical martial arts, especially in the Fiore dei Liberi manuscript.
  • Guy shares a personal anecdote about a conversation that changed his interpretation of a specific passage in Fiore.

Teaching Historical Fencing and University Teaching

  • Stephan compares teaching historical fencing to university teaching, noting the differences in student motivation.
  • He discusses the challenges of teaching non-physicists basic physics courses and the importance of being prepared.
  • Stephan emphasizes the importance of admitting when not well-prepared without looking unprepared.
  • Guy shares his own experience with handling unexpected questions in teaching.

Building and Modifying Equipment for Historical Martial Arts

  • Stephan shares his experience of building a gorget due to certification issues with available gorgets.
  • He describes the modular design of his gorget, using multiple plastics and removable padding for washing.
  • Stephan discusses the importance of having a gorget with a blade catcher and high impact padding.
  • Guy shares his own experience of making a gorget with Kevlar and leather.

3D Printing and Safety Equipment Design

  • Stephan explains his journey into 3D printing, starting with building a gorget and later designing safety equipment.
  • He describes the challenges of finding proper steel bosses for bucklers and the solution of using half bowls from fencing equipment manufacturers.
  • Stephan shares his method of building bucklers with plywood and steel bosses, emphasizing the importance of fixing the boss securely.
  • Guy discusses his own method of making bucklers with plywood and plastic handles.

Open Source Safety Equipment Design

  • Stephan discusses the importance of open source safety equipment design, especially for sword tips.
  • He shares his experience of testing different types of sword tips and the development of his own design.
  • Stefan’s design combines flexible material for cushioning and high impact resistant plastic for durability.
  • He emphasizes the importance of making the design accessible to the public for improvement and adaptation.

Inclusive Event and Club Culture

  • Stephan highlights the importance of inclusive language and gender-neutral terms in event descriptions and club websites.
  • He shares an anecdote about dealing with individuals with extremist views and the development of a code of conduct.
  • Stephan discusses the use of visible signs of inclusivity, such as pride puffy pants and including pride flags in club logos.
  • Guy shares his own experience of using a pride flag as a symbol for his online community.

Nail Painting and Its Impact on Class Environment

  • Guy shares a story about painting his nails rainbow colours at a sword event in Seattle, which helped him connect with people and create a more relaxed environment.
  • The nail painting made people, especially those who didn’t know him, feel more comfortable, which in turn helped him teach better.
  • Guy mentions that he usually doesn’t paint his nails but wishes he could because it helps people relax.
  • Stephan suggests using a rainbow-included patch for similar effects, and Guy Windsor considers it.

T-Shirts and Club Culture

  • Guy talks about his T-shirts with images of historical fencing figures, which help in teaching and creating a unique club culture.
  • Stephan discusses the design of their club T-shirts, which include options for different weapons and pride flags, to make members feel included and expressive.
  • The club encourages members to choose their own T-shirt designs, including various pride flags, to promote inclusivity and diversity.
  • Guy enquires about the practicalities of ordering these T-shirts, and Stephan provides details about their online shop and customization options.

Club Atmosphere and Code of Conduct

  • Stephan emphasizes the importance of maintaining a balance between uniformity and individual expression in club T-shirts.
  • The club encourages members to report any inappropriate behaviour, including from instructors, to ensure a safe and inclusive environment.
  • Guy and Stephan discuss the importance of having a clear code of conduct for events, which participants must acknowledge during registration.
  • The code of conduct helps in addressing any issues that arise during events, ensuring that everyone adheres to the same standards of behaviour.

Event Design and Diversity

  • Stephan explains their approach to event design, aiming for equal representation of instructors, including underrepresented groups.
  • The goal is to have a diverse range of instructors and topics, making the events more inclusive and interesting for participants.
  • Guy appreciates the effort to create a friendly and welcoming environment at events, which contributes to the overall positive experience.
  • The discussion highlights the importance of diversity in teaching and organizing events to cater to a broader audience.

Future Projects and Personal Goals

  • Stephan shares their aspiration to write a kid-friendly version of Fiore’s story, aimed at children aged 1 to 5.
  • Guy and Stephan discuss the challenges and potential of this project, including the need for faithful translations and engaging storytelling.
  • The idea is to use Fiore’s virtues as a framework for teaching children important values through a fun and engaging story.
  • Stephan mentions the support from a lovely illustrator and the pressure to complete the project, aiming for a timeline that aligns with their child’s age.

Improving Historical Martial Arts with Funding

  • Guy asks Stephan how they would spend a million euros to improve historical martial arts worldwide.
  • Stephan suggests investing in youth education programs to make historical fencing more accessible to children.
  • They also propose creating a research centre to fund multiple research projects, including historical research, material research, and public advertisement.
  • The goal is to support various aspects of historical martial arts, from teaching kids to conducting research that benefits the community.

Final Thoughts and Next Steps

  • Guy and Stephan discuss the importance of addressing under-served areas in historical martial arts, such as youth training and research.
  • Stephan emphasizes the need for a foundation that provides funding for research projects and public advertisement.
  • The conversation highlights the potential impact of targeted funding on the growth and development of historical martial arts.
  • Guy thanks Stephan for the insightful discussion and looks forward to future collaborations and projects.